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Hard clock has always been

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a forum for public figures,

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thought leaders and decision

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makers to share their ideas.

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Here we offer access to dynamic political,

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We are dedicated to encouraging debate

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on the issues that matter to the city,

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this province and this country.

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Canadian club is one of the most

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important podium anywhere in the world

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that a Canadian can speak to tell

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Canadians what it is that they think,

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develop those thoughts.

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And so I want to thank you

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for that very, very much.

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Please join me in thanking

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our esteemed panelists today.

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Through our programs and events,

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including our youth and young leaders

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programs, our diversity partnerships,

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our joint events,

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and our media and social media opportunities,

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we offer you access to dynamic political,

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The platform from which the eloquence

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of Canada has flowed all of that time,

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whether it be business, education,

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If someone wants to say something

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to Canadians about this country and

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about the future of this country,

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this is the venue you choose.

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Good afternoon,

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Canadian club members and guests.

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My name is Joseph Lowe, president of

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Canadian club Toronto, and I am so,

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so excited to be your host today,

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especially for our season opening event.

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So on this first week of school in Ontario,

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I appreciate you joining us for an

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exciting electric new season of the

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Canadian club as we continue to celebrate

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125 years of speaking to Canadians.

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Today we have many guests joining

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here in the room in person.

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But no matter where you are,

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you'll see those on your screens as well.

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As children in Ontario return to the

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classroom and a new academic year this week,

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many of us might have been

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transported back to a cherished

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back to school memory of our own.

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I know that I was.

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That shiny new lunch box

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we've been saving all summer.

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A fresh notebook with all those

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multi colored tabs ordered just so.

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Just saying hi to the teachers.

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Who would become her favourites

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and would in fact make all the

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difference to us in our lives?

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Like many of you,

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my wife and I were helping our 11

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and 12 year old pack for their first

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day of school a couple days ago.

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emblazoned with apples and androids.

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Not so much my coloured stickers.

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So my question to all of us is this.

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When we think about pensions and retirement.

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Has innovation in that space kept

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pace with the innovation that

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we'll find in my kids backpacks?

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Seriously, has it.

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Well, this afternoon we're going to find out.

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Our speaker is, after all,

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entrusted with expanding the retirement

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horizons of Ontario teachers,

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330,000 members.

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As he shares his remarks,

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let's pay particular attention to how

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he intends to lean in on innovation,

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international expansion and impact in

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today's complex investing environment.

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As a global investment powerhouse

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with almost $250 billion in

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assets under management.

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Ontario teachers operates in more

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than 50 countries across 5 continents,

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managing over 100 private investments today.

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Joe Taylor,

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OTP's president and CEO,

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will share his vision and strategy with us to

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grow the pension fund to 300 billion by 2030.

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Our conversation will be moderated

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today by none other than Andrew

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Willis from The Globe and Mail.

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And so if you have any questions for Joe

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through the course of the conversation,

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please jot it down.

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You'll find the Q&amp;amp;A cards right on the table.

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And if you're online,

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you can hit the submit a question,

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submit a question button at anytime.

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We'll get your questions that way as well.

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Now I'd like to acknowledge

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our sponsors for today.

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PwC represented by Ryan Couvrette.

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Anne McCarthy Tetro represented

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by Scott Bell.

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We very much appreciate your support.

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So now it's my pleasure to invite

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Ryan to the podium to introduce our

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speakers today. Ryan, over to you.

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Thank you, Joe. It's amazing that

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we're actually here in person.

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chicken was delivered to dip my tie

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in it and get it all over my shirt.

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this side is better right now.

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Thank you. As Joe mentioned,

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my name is Ryan Couvrette.

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I'm a partner private equity and pensions

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leader in the GTA at PwC Canada.

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I'd like to extend a thank you to Joe Lowe,

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President of the Canadian club.

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My colleague at PwC who invited

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us to participate in this event.

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It is my absolute pleasure.

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To introduce Joe Taylor,

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the President and CEO of

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Ontario Teachers Pension plan.

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And our moderator, Andrew Willis.

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Joe was appointed President and CEO.

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Of teachers in 2020.

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With the goal of reshaping

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teachers brand to be bolder.

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Joe and his leadership team recently

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announced a total fund net return of 1.2%

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for the six month period ended June 30th,

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2022.

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Delivering positive returns for

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its members at a time of immense

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uncertainty and volatility.

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Andrew Willis,

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as we've mentioned,

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is a business columnist for The

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Globe and Mails report on business.

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Andrew has been in journalism for 30

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years and is a former SVP Communications

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at Brookfield Asset manage.

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Today's session,

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we'll explore the macro shifts that

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are influencing the global investment

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landscape and how teachers is navigating

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the investment opportunities and

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challenges during this difficult

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social and economic and economic climate.

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At PwC,

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we recently launched the Trust Road map.

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Which seeks to address the growing

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trust deficit that individuals and

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organizations are experiencing today

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in light of these challenging times.

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It is our purpose at PwC to build trust

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in society and solve important problems.

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Which we believe is crucial

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during times like these.

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And I'll now turn it over to Joe

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to offer his opening remarks.

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Joe will then sit down with

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Andrew for what promises to be

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a very engaging discussion.

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Well, thank you, Ryan,

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and it's my pleasure to be with you

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all today and thanks to the Canadian

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Club of Toronto for the invitation.

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Before I started talking,

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Vanity over accuracy.

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It's because vanity took over my approach.

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22 really helpful introductions

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made already by by Joe and Ryan,

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but I did think I'd just take a few minutes.

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To share a few words about Ontario

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teachers for those of you who are

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a little less familiar with us.

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As has already been said,

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it's really our role to invest to

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deliver retirement security for over

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330,000 active and retired teachers.

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Who are predominantly based

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in the province of Ontario.

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We also administer their pensions.

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And make sure that we can provide

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a high mix of service to deal with

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their issues and their concerns.

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the last 30 years we have grown

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to be a global investor.

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know we also own Cadillac Fairview,

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which is a well known local operator of

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which is now looking to expand

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beyond Canada into different

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the businesses that we work with.

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investment professionals who sit

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towards moving them to be both more

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member and employer contributions account

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for only 20% of our funding sources.

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we have the demographics of our plan.

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Now unlike many of our peers,

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we navigate a multi billion dollar

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funding gap each year and that's

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going to widen in the coming years.

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So given all of these realities,

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one thing stands out.

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We really can't afford to make

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too many mistakes.

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So this leads me to my remarks

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and I'd like to highlight some

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of the challenges that I've faced

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personally over the last three years.

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Some of my learnings to date and

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then also a brief look into the

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opportunities for the future.

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Then as you heard already,

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I'll be able to have a chat with

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Andy over Q&amp;amp;A and I do hope you

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get the chance through that to

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post some of your questions.

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So when I started as CEO teachers,

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I saw three early challenges.

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To get a deeper understanding of the

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business, to establish followership,

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and to set a new North

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star for the organization.

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So on the first challenge,

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when you think you've been with the

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business for a reasonable length

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of time a decade, in my case,

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you work on the assumption that you

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you know the business pretty well.

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I actually discovered that in addition

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to moving to a new job in a new country.

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There were aspects of teachers

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that I didn't know quite so well.

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And the reason for this has

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already been mentioned, I think,

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which is teachers is a complex organization

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with investments in over 50 countries

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across a wide selection of assets.

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The second challenge for me was actually

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to build confidence in my leadership.

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I knew that if I was going to

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achieve what I wanted to as CEO,

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I had to build followership,

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starting with my senior leadership team,

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many of whom have been my

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peers until quite recently.

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I had to persuade them that

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I had both the right vision.

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But frankly, I knew what I was doing.

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The third challenge?

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Was actually to find an

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All Star for the business,

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which has already been mentioned.

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The one that we chose was to reach

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$300 billion in net assets by 2030,

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roughly 50% more than the $200 billion

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that we had when I was appointed.

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Now, while $300 billion sounds

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like a nice round Number,

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it actually is the number that we

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need to achieve to make sure the

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plan remains fully funded in 2030.

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So back to January 2020,

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we can all remember that far back these days.

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I came into the job as an optimistic

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CEO ready for the challenge.

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What I didn't expect was how

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much the environment would

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change and just how quickly.

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With the impact of the pandemic,

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almost nothing turned

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out as I first expected.

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And in that, guys,

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I thought I mentioned five things

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that were to me the most notable.

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First, the COVID pandemic created

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unprecedented disruption for

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the world and for our business.

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The first major challenge for us

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was to engage full remote working.

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And to actually test all the

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systems and working practices that

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we'd set up for such a crisis.

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In the face of uncertainty,

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the team did a super job of reacting

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quickly and actually moving to

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full remote working and different

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working practices that came with it.

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And I think now the worst of the

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pack tamic is hopefully over.

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We will all need to decide what

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is the best approach to both in

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office work and remote working.

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conflicting needs will be one

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of the defining issues of 2023.

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we're trying to show enough

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flexibility so that.

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The sufficient in office experience

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to give a good experience to

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those who come into work,

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but also we're showing sufficient

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flexibility to high-quality younger

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staff who actually currently see an

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in Office 5 day working week as,

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frankly, quite unattractive.

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My second issue is geopolitics,

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and I think that's become increasingly

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strange around the world.

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We now have in Europe a war which

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between China and the US,

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which was once the linchpin of

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economic growth and stability,

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is incredibly strained.

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These developments are fuelling

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volatility and uncertainty in global

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markets and prompting many of the

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investors we know to hunker down and

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focus on investing in home markets.

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And as you'd expect me to say,

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my Third Point is soaring inflation.

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High costs of both energy and

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food are hurting families and

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businesses around the world.

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And central banks have moved in

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an effort to deal with inflation

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by hiking interest rates,

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something you saw locally yesterday.

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But that higher?

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Rates is bringing other challenges

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and the risk of stalling growth

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or stagflation is a really

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material one for our plan,

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but also for many other businesses.

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This is forcing us to rethink how

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we look at our capital deployment.

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My 4th point is actually now the

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accepted urgency around how we

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need to tackle climate change.

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And this issue has put a lot of

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pressure on investors to act now

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to reduce their carbon footprint,

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but also the footprint of all

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of their portfolio companies.

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The more progressive investors are

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now starting to think about picking

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up the challenges to proactively

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invest in reducing emissions in more

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high carbon intensive businesses.

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And finally of my list of five.

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I think we're also changing.

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Differing environments and

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thoughts about stakeholders and

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expectations of those stakeholders.

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Trust in government and large

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institutions like teachers has waned.

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Increasingly,

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the onus is on us to demonstrate that we

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have a purpose beyond making a profit.

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So what have I learned

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in the past three years?

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Absolutely. My first point

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would be to say that as a CEO,

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you're only ever a transitory occupant

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of a really privileged position.

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Teachers had three excellent CEOs

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before I was asked to do the job,

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and there'll be further great ones

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that will take the role after I go.

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It's really my job to make sure

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that I leave the organization in a

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better shape than when I started.

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It's a responsibility,

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I think, to work with purpose,

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not with apprehension.

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Second, you could really only achieve

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success with the right people.

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Rising to the challenges we faced over the

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past three years was certainly not easy.

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It was achieved thanks to

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an outstanding team.

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Where we're able to make those

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changes throughout our organization.

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The team has shown incredible

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adaptability in very trying times.

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My Third Point would be to say

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that we're very fortunate at

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teachers to have a diversified

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approach to portfolio construction.

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And this has helped us to adapt and

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what have been fiercely negative

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investment markets to allow us to be

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able to show stability and growth.

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To make sure that we main

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a fully funded plan.

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And that being able to do this with speed

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and agility is in no small measure.

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A feature of history.

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As a historian,

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I like lots to talk about history,

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and that was really down to how

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teachers were set up over 30 years ago.

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Our governance structure.

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Which was designed very wisely by

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our sponsors some 30 years ago,

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is one of the key reasons we were able

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to act really decisively starting in 2020.

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Our sponsors chose to choose a

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professional and independent board

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which has the turn has delegated

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some authority to the executive

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team to run the plan.

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And this approach to governance

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has become internationally as

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the Canadian model and it is,

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in my opinion,

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one of Canada's greatest exports.

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Canadian plans differentiate themselves

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by being able to attract the best talent.

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Invest directly.

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And also to switch rapidly between

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public and private investments,

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all of which help to boost our

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returns over long term.

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that many investors around the

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world are now trying to implement

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their own version of this model,

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with varying degrees of success.

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Our model and powers to act quickly

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and with conviction to deal with

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challenging market conditions

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and I just thought I'd share an

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example of which which I think

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highlights it pretty well.

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Back in March 2020,

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fixed income represented

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46% of our asset mix.

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When COVID impacted rates fell to near 0,

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we reacted quickly to and wide

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both the scale and the interest

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rate sensitivity of that portfolio.

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By December 2020,

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our allocation to fixed income

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had been reduced to 16%.

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Now sometimes percentages don't

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give you the full picture,

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but essentially what we did was to

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switch over $60 billion from fixed

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income into other asset categories,

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predominantly private companies.

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Now, I don't want to leave you the

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impression we've got everything figured out.

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Navigating all of today's

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challenging is is very much what

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I would call work in progress.

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We need to continue to invest,

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but more importantly,

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we need to continue to take risks.

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In what will probably remain

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to be very volatile markets.

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The next 10 years look like they'll

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be very different from the last 10,

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so investment strategy needs to

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adapt to be able to reflect this.

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And with this backdrop.

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As Joe mentioned earlier,

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I thought I'd cover 3 areas quickly around

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how we see opportunities for the future,

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and that's international expansion.

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Innovation and impact.

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Now, despite the more complex global

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markets are referred to earlier,

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we'll continue to diversify our

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portfolio and our team internationally.

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While we invest in over 50 countries,

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we're focusing on 9 or 10 strategic

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markets where we believe we have both.

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The competitive advantage where we

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also have the necessary expertise.

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And these include some longstanding markets,

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places like here in Canada,

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the US and the UK.

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we've been exploring new markets

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such as India and Mexico,

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where we've been quite active

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over the last 12 months.

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And we're deepening also

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our focus on innovation.

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in high growth companies.

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Where we think they're likely

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to benefit from changes in

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technology and consumer behaviour.

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teachers venture growth,

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a team that now works with over 20

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companies in sectors ranging from

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digital healthcare to plant based foods.

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It's currently represents about

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3% of our portfolio and we plan

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to grow that to between 7:00

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and 10% over the next 10 years.

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We're also bringing innovation to

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all of our portfolio through CORU,

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which is our incubator.

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Cora works with the companies in our

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portfolio to identify opportunities

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to create standalone businesses

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or new products that can be spun

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out and can succeed independently.

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And I thought I'd give you an example.

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So one of those companies that has

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Which designed software which

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allows you to monitor the safety

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And field came out of our partnership

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with a UK gas utility, SGN.

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And since the field app was developed.

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SGM has seen a 20% reduction

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in work injuries and also an

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8% increase in profitability.

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And there's also been quite a lot of

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interest from third parties to license

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the technology for their own workforce.

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And having said all of that,

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I do want to make the point that at

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teachers we do want to have a positive,

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lasting impact on the world.

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Our active management model has

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helped us to shape our approach,

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for example, to climate change.

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We believe the best way to

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accelerate the energy transition is

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in by engaging with high emitters

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rather than passively divesting.

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and the ability to invest in both

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public and private companies.

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Has meant that we're well suited to help

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with many larger businesses to decarbonise.

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for our investment strategy to succeed,

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we will need to promote a more

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distinct brand for teachers.

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And this is particularly

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true internationally,

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where we're often seen as one

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of the Canadian pension plans.

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And let's be honest,

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whilst that means we're in

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good company from that,

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with that characterization,

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it does not help us really to be

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able to work with the very best

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investment partners or equally to

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secure and retain the best talent.

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So I hope my remarks and the Q&amp;amp;A

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coming up next with with Andy gives

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you a good sense of who we are.

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What we're trying to navigate.

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I also hope that you see an

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institution that is well positioned

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to handle all of the challenges

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we'll face around the world.

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Capitalise on the growth ahead and

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create a meaningful and lasting

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impact on our chosen markets.

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And finally I wanted to. Make a couple

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of other comments if I may so firstly.

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I noticed that our severance health

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is suffering today and I know a lot

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of the royal family are gathering,

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so certainly my thoughts go to

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somebody who I think has shown

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massive leadership throughout my

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life in terms of her actions and

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her contributions around the world.

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But let me bring it back to home

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and really reinforce what was said a

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minute ago and that is to say that.

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Many of our Members,

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along with two million children in Ontario,

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are returning to school this week.

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And I want to add on my best wishes

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for the start of this school year

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and I hope it's a massive success.

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But from my role and my responsibilities,

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I also want to make one final point.

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Which is that I wanted to reaffirm

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that will continue to work with our

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Members and work on their behalf to

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reduce the financial anxieties of

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retirement when they choose to take it.

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Thank you very much.

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Well, thank you very much, Joe,

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and thank you everybody for being here

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as we start this season. I have to be.

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I have to humble myself for a moment.

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The fact that I am up here with a

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CEO of teachers tells me that no one

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had teachers has read what I wrote.

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When the fund started out,

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if those of you with decent memories

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may recall that when teachers began,

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it held a portfolio of Untradable

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Ontario bonds and the first actions

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that teachers was to use derivatives

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to get out of the Ontario bond

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market and into foreign markets.

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And if you go to the Internet

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and type my name,

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you'll find an article that says

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teachers risks all with derivatives.

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I was an innovation skeptic.

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I questioned that actually,

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that that column got me a call.

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Why don't you come on up to North York?

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I ended up at a bar called the slug.

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Has anybody else?

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It was a bad British and Bob Bertram

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taught me the derivatives were

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not going to blow up teachers.

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It was all going to be OK.

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Here we are a few years later,

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the goal is 300 billion in assets and I'm

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fascinated on how you're going to get there.

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And I thought I'd start by by talking about

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teachers kind of role as an innovator.

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As you said,

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the Canadian.

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Role is established,

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but but teachers should take and

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teachers leadership should take a great

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deal of credit for blazing that trail.

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You now face a demographic issue

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that eventually other plans

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will face your workforce.

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The Teacher of Ontario.

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They have the wonderful habit

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They they are tend to be over 30

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You've got a lot of teachers who are

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over the age of 100 still taking

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a pension and your workforce is.

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Still relatively same.

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So you now have far more members

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collecting a pension or not more,

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So how does teachers change the

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way it thinks about investing and

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about running the how do you as a

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CEO change the way you lead the

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fund as the fund matures?

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And what lessons can that offer

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the other Canadian plans and all

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of us as we head to retirement?

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Well, thanks, Andy.

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I could spend a long time on this question.

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I'll try and be succinct.

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I think that the central pivot point

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is actually your appetite for risk.

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but with the demographics of our plan,

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as I said a minute ago,

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we can't take too many risks.

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so every investment we make probably

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by and large,

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unless we're buying government

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bonds by and large.

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So I think the the challenge for us is

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to try and say in our investment activities,

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what is the right balance in our

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portfolio to actually say we can

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generate the returns needed to

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keep the plan fully funded and

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grow the assets towards that

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$300 billion Northstar number.

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But also we're taking the right level

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of risk so that we're not gonna sit

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back to your point below the plan up.

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In in the main, what we've been

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able to do more recently I think is

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navigate some big shifts in products

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like fixed income and private assets

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and really go to assets we think

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give us the characteristics we need.

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So they picked a couple.

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We're very long in inflation sensitive

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assets because we we feel that inflation

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is a big challenge for our plan.

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All the pensions are inflation links.

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Our liabilities go up with inflation.

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So we have.

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Around 40% of our portfolio in in

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those types of assets and I think

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that is has helped us back to the

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point of navigating the first half of

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this year reasonably well and still

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early days in terms of navigating

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I think challenging markets.

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The second point, if I could say it,

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is that we need everybody in

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the organization.

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To feel it's a safe culture to take a risk.

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And I think where plans struggle

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is that if people try to innovate

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or try to try out something new

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and get highly criticized for it,

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then you won't do it again.

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And you know,

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teachers is a fabulously

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successful organization.

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My job under what I've defined as the

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teachers 3.0 strategy is to evolve

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it to the next stage of expansion,

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which will involve some change

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and that can be challenging.

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There's an interesting political

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environment right now around ESG.

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Been around the investments

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that that you're making,

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the impact investments that you're

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making to to help the environment.

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I'm thinking specifically if you've

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been following the US News of of certain

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politicians Ron DeSantis in Florida,

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some of the Texas politicians they're

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sort of saying look funds in that

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we sponsor with state money should

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have it on almost an anti EG bias.

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They they they feel that that ESG is a

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woke political movement you're talking about.

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Your the fund demonstrating lasting

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value not only for performance but

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as as a force of good in markets.

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Can you just talk a little bit about

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you know what you would say to what I

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perceive as a bit of an ESG backlash

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that that pension plans like teachers,

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that fund managers like Larry Fink at

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Black Rock they're facing you know,

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how do you,

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how do you marry up the SG obligations

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of the fund along with your mandate to

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to generate sustainable performance?

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With a couple of comments.

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I think within the CESG discussion

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is the the question of trust.

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So trust is very hard to gain

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and really easy to lose.

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And when we talk about climate impact?

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We have to make sure that we're walking

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the talk every time and what we invest

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that it's consistent with what we've said,

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which is a component,

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core component I would argue,

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of our branding.

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The execution of ESG issues is not easy.

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You know, we we've been known

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for quite a long time of being,

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I think pioneers of strong governance

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around the companies we operate in,

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whether it's public or private companies.

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But I think the newer areas, the the S

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and the E are really coming to the fore.

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I think on climate,

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the most interesting thing we're

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grappling with at the moment is.

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there's a range of views across

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our membership about whether

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we should be in fossil fuels.

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Should we divest from them?

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That's perfectly good discussion to have.

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Our view is actually those companies

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are more likely to decarbonise

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with our ownership than if we

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to make sure that we have the skills,

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the money and the time to allow those

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there's been a lot of debate

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within our firm and I think there

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is going on more broadly now.

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We've always tried to do the right

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thing as you might describe it.

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We have to be more granular than that.

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now is actually saying what are the

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things we can do to essentially level

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up inequality in the communities

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that we work with around the world.

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That's not gonna be the 50

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countries that I was mentioning,

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but it probably will be in the 9

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to 10 markets where we've chosen

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to have a specialist involvement.

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Let's talk a little bit about

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the the high carbon investments,

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because you were out with a publication

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this week on the website that that

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says it was actually a wonderful

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discussion of of where you're going on,

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on a lot of different fronts.

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But the one that caught my eye

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was a $5 billion commitment to

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high carbon transition assets.

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Do you want to just talk about

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like what that might look like?

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And and how you'll answer to Members

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that that feel you shouldn't be

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involved in fossil fuels at all.

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So I I'd encourage everybody,

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if you haven't had the opportunity

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on our website,

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there's our responsible investing

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and climate report.

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It sets out a lot of our thinking and

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our objectives around how we're trying

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to tackle these areas for the high

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carbon assets that you just mentioned,

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Andy.

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We've set aside a notional number about

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$5 billion and in the size of businesses

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we're likely to be working with,

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that's probably two or three investments.

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And what we're going to do is make sure

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that when we look at those investments,

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we can deliver what we're hoping to deliver,

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which is we're clear about

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what needs to change.

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We can help those businesses

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to execute that transition.

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And actually at the end of the day,

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they are significantly

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lower emitters of carbon.

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And to give you an idea,

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the average emissions from our

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portfolio is about 30 tonnes of carbon.

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Paper asset we have, dollar asset we have.

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These higher emitting businesses

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will be over 300 tonnes,

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so 10 times the criteria that we have

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generically through the portfolio.

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So coming back to the point

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of are we being brave?

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I think we are being brave because we're

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actually putting our marker down to

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say we wanna take on these businesses

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to proactively help them decarbonise.

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We could leave them to somebody else,

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and I'd say it's your problem.

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But the evidence we've seen so far is

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somebody else isn't doing anything.

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So we are taking the view that it's more

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likely to happen under our ownership

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than it were left to somebody else.

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And Joe,

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would you have lower investment targets

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on those on those assets or or would

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the investment targets stay the same?

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But but there's also the social

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benefit that you that you talked about.

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I honestly, I I would personally say this.

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I mean. Our investment team,

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who some of who are here today

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probably give me a different view,

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but I would say that there's a base level.

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The return should be the same,

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right?

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And in some ways you should in

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many ways be looking for a larger

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investment return because they

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come with reputational risk.

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As we said right from the start,

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this is this is your event.

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I'm thrilled to ask your questions and we do.

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I've come up with a couple of

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questions from the crowd.

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Joe,

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you said the plan leans on innovation.

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Today Canadian institutional investors

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are under invested in the life

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sciences compared to US pension plans

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growing in Canadian life science companies.

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Is a basically good policy

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for this this country.

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How can we reduce the impediments to

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investments in like Canadian life

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science and create more value in Canada?

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Great question, whoever asked it,

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so thank you for it.

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I would say quite honestly,

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we're a bit underweight in

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medical and life sciences too.

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I think the reason for that

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is really one of scale.

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If you think about it.

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We we generally like to invest in

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probably above about $100 million

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in any business and there are

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lots of fantastic life science

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companies which are below that.

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Size and valuation threshold

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for us easily to embrace them.

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We try to look more flexibly through

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our teachers venture growth team,

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which I mentioned earlier and they have

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done some things in this area absolutely.

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I think the challenge in in

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life sciences and to be honest,

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I think in Canada more broadly is how

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do we work with other local investors

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to be essentially the second or

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third provider of funding to really

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try and scale a substantial business?

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That's probably where we're at,

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at our sweet spot.

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You you mentioned the the

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teachers venture growth and I

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I really love the investment.

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If you haven't seen the portfolio,

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Joe's got an investment in Elon Musk's

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SpaceX, which is I think really cool.

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How do you think though about those

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disruptive technologies and you you

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mentioned reputational risk too.

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I mean you know the case stuff their toe on,

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on an investment in a crypto company.

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You know, how do you think about

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cutting edge companies where the

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obviously the chances of success

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mean really outsized returns,

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but there is a much higher

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chance that it goes to 0.

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How how do you think about investments in?

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In inventure.

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Well, the first thing to say to

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everybody in the room is I'm not

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trying to get a ticket to Mars.

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Though quite like to go,

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but that wasn't that wasn't the argument.

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These companies have risk.

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So we again we have to be thoughtful

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about are we, are we comfortable,

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we can assess the level of risk and it's

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it's appropriate for a plan like ours.

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I also mentioned earlier,

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we want to get paid for the risk

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we take and we found today that the

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assets we've accumulated in our

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teacher venture growth team about 20.

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As I mentioned earlier,

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they've done really well.

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They generate a 40% return last year for us,

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which is fantastic.

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And so what's the point here?

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I think the point for us is to say.

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When you are often dealing

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with a venture business.

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The key question I've always found,

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and I did do some venture

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investing back in my youth.

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I suppose you could call it that.

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Is that you need to understand

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the competency and capability of

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management to execute the plan.

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Everybody tends to look at the technology

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or the market and spend a lot of

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time with consultants trying to get,

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you know, is there a gap,

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is there room for growth?

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But actually to me the,

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the,

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the overriding link to success

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around these type of venture business

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or growth equity businesses.

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Have you actually got a great

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founder or entrepreneur who

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can drive the business forward?

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So Elon Musk is a case in point.

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Unusual guy,

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but you look at what he's done

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across multiple businesses,

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he has got something special about him.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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I'm going to take another

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question from the crowd.

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You talked about some of the challenges

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we're facing in light of recent market

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downturns and soaring inflation.

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Our pension funds still

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sufficiently capitalized.

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Do you see underfunded pension

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plans being an issue going forward?

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Well, I'll be careful

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about talking for others.

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Let me start with that.

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That statement of our May,

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what we do in our plan is actually

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we try to think not only in terms

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of what you heard me talk about,

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which is generating return to grow

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our asset base closer to that $300

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billion North Star where we should

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have enough assets and and liquidity

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to be able to fund the pension.

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Contributions we need to make.

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What we also have to do,

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because we administer the plan,

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we also need to think about the liability

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profile of what we're working with.

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And sometimes those don't

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always move in tandem.

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So we are thinking more carefully now

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given we are having a rising interest

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rate and inflationary environment

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about looking at our liabilities and

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saying how do we try and insulate

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that risk as well as much as we can.

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And we we start from a premise of

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we're trying to leave the existing

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arrangement we have with our

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stakeholders as it stands in terms of

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contributions in and payments out,

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but it is a challenging funding.

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Dynamic and I think that's why the team

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has to be on its metal every day to,

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to perform.

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And I'm interested in the way

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you think about global markets.

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You know, you've built offices elsewhere,

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you've got offices in Asia,

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you've got offices in in in Europe.

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Do you expect and you've always had a

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culture of being a direct investment

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as opposed to hiring outside managers.

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So when you look at the global market,

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first of all,

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do you expect to increase over time the

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global exposure or the fund and secondly?

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When you think about Australia

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or India or or South America,

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will teachers eventually have

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teams in those in those markets?

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How's how's global growth going to shape?

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I think I laid my marker down fairly

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early on to be chosen as CEO teachers that

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I believe in international investing.

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That has been my background personally

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and I very much introduced some

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thoughts strategically before I became

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the CEO of teachers that actually

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that to me was the right thing to

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do essentially for our our growth.

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Within that, you know,

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you're really looking at the logic

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of saying diversified investing is

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better access to different countries

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and markets is better because they

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move with different growth rates,

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different speeds,

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and you learn more actually by

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being an international investor

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than being being a local 1.

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We've got us an objective particularly

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around our private assets to

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have essentially a 5050 balance

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between North America and and

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and other international markets.

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And that's a really big challenge

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when you add in the weight of the

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Cadillac Fairview local portfolio

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and real estate and some other

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North American based assets to see

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that that sort of shift over time.

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Where will we be in say 10 years time?

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It's hard to say.

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I think we're finding increasingly

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back to my geopolitical.

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Comments that actually,

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if you're a flying investor from abroad,

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it's becoming more challenged to

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be taken seriously as a credible

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asset owner and manager.

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And politically,

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there are a number of changes that

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are happening in markets we like and

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we've been operating in for a while

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where clearly the new government is saying,

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I'm not so sure that foreign investors are

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what we want for certain types of assets.

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And where that gets most complicated,

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I would say,

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is probably around things like

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infrastructure,

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particularly strategically important

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infrastructure assets where we'd like

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to be an owner and we have to persuade

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ourselves with the right choice.

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I'm gonna go with one final question and

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then there is just a minute or two left.

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Anybody who wants to get a card in that,

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that would be great.

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But look, as Canadians were always

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fascinated with how others see us,

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now Americans see us.

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You're a relative newcomer

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to this this country,

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obviously been with teachers

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for for for some time,

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but what have been the your observations

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on on doing business in Canada?

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Any big surprises on coming to this

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this market and this business community

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or this is potentially the question,

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Andy,

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where?

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The trapdoor opens between myselves

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beneath my seat.

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Well, let me start by saying

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I I married a Canadian lady.

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Well done, so I'm I'm a bit more

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Canadian than you might think.

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And you know, I've I talked to my children,

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certainly my daughter would see ourselves

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more Canadian than than from the UK,

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I think it's fair to say.

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And I think Canada has enormous strengths

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and it's going to help it navigate

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some of the turbulent waters we see

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well over the next couple of years.

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When you start with all the the

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the asset base it has in oil

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and gas as well as commodities,

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very well placed if you contrast

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Canada to what I see from where

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I came from in the UK around

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energy prices and energy risk.

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You don't have the same,

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I think pressure around electricity,

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particularly prices and I think that's a

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huge help again in terms of a stability

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in in the local market and the world.

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One might be a little

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fearful about house prices.

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I guess they they seem in certain locations,

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certainly here, to have gone up

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significantly in recent times.

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I think that will be one to watch out for.

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But I should probably conclude this this

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question by saying I'm actually working

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way later than I ever thought I would.

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And I'm doing that because I'm working

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with people I really want to be with

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and they give me energy and enthusiasm

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every day of the week to come into

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the office and try and do better.

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And I think that's probably the best thing

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I can say about working with a Canadian

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team and a Canadian environment in there's

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so much that they bring to the table

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that make you a better person every day.

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Well, if there's no other questions,

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I think that's a wonderful

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note to finish it up.

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I have had the pleasure of covering

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the Canadian model as it evolved,

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and I've also had the opportunity

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to travel around the world.

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Canadian pension plans with

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teachers as a leader.

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there are some of our best ambassadors.

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They are world class capital pools

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and I commend the Canadian club for

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giving us an opportunity to to hear

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from Joe and to sort of celebrate

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what we're doing and then better

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understand where things are going.

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So it has been my honor to.

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Be up on stage today and thank you,

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Joe for for taking a few minutes with us.

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Paula.

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Yes. Very much. Thank you.

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My name is Paula Allen.

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I'm a director with the Canadian

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Club of Toronto and it is my

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absolute pleasure to thank our

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first guest of of the season.

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And what an incredible conversation.

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Thank you.

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Mr Taylor, on behalf of the Canadian club,

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it's very inspiring to hear your vision

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and what the work that you do in

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international expansion, the innovation,

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the impact and as the daughter of Avery

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and Rupert and the daughter-in-law of

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Alpha educators in Ontario who are

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healthy and happy and very secure,

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I thank you for that as well.

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It makes it makes a difference.

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It's, it's very clear.

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Just to see why the Ontario Teachers

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Pension Plan is an enviable one.

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But I was also struck by, you know,

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not only your vision as a CEO and your

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passion as a CEO, but several times.

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You might not have realized that,

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but I was keeping track.

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I keep score of things.

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There's several times that you

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mentioned your team, your talent,

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the people that you work with.

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That makes a difference because

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that is what's going to bring that

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sustainable value and also the importance

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of the impact of the work you do,

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not only the constituents but

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the social good.

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So many things to thank you for in

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addition to your time here today

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and wish you continued success in

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your leadership in one of the most

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successful pension plans in the world.

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And Andrew, you're always welcome back.

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Such a skilled moderator and a wonderful

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partner to chat with at the table, and we

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all forgive you for your egregious error.

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But don't stop because you make make whole

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people accountable and make them explain

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But again truly thank you for your your

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skill in moderating the conversation

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and very much thanks to our tireless

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Canadian club staff for making sure

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that there's always value to our members,

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to our sponsors and our guests are well

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taken care of and particular thanks today.

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To PwC and McCarthy Tetro as sponsors

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of today's event, it could not

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happen without their their support.

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So thank you all and I'm hoping to

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see each and everyone of you plus all

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of your friends back maybe a bigger

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venue to some of our other events.

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On September the 28th,

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we'll have Aaron Cory,

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CEO of Canada Infrastructure Bank,

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joining us on September 29th.

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Our lineup will feature a stellar

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panner panel on the insights in Canada

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and the world's economic outlook,

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so I will definitely not miss

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either of those.

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And also thank you to our partners in AV,

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Val Vandenberg Communications

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and Live media.ca.

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So I hope you had an inspiring a few minutes

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and stay safe and see you again soon.

